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Title: Tie-in, belay loops
Post by: Kiron Kid on October 22, 2008, 02:52:06 pm
     Just wondering what the difference or preferred method is. I noticed that some of the big wall harnesses have one loop, while others have two. What's your opinions and experiences.

Thanks
Kiron Kid
Title: Re: Tie-in, belay loops
Post by: offset on October 22, 2008, 03:44:02 pm
i don't much see the purpose of two belay loops.  ...a man can only eat one meal at a time...  ok, maybe not applicable to this - but felt like saying it.  the only thing that goes thru my one belay loop is  a locker for my gri-gri and maybe another locker for a tie-in short.  maybe some put their daisies in their belay loops but i don't think it's good practice. 

what do you dual belay loopers do with all those belay loops?

Title: Re: Tie-in, belay loops
Post by: lunchbox on October 24, 2008, 01:15:44 am
I've always tied a 9/16" loop to match my belay loop.  I girth hitch my fifi hook to it mostly.  I also use it as the hauling point on my harness and use it for lower outs.

I call it my traffic hub, it lets my the big belay loop belay and backup my jugs.
Title: Re: Tie-in, belay loops
Post by: Mike. on October 24, 2008, 10:29:09 am
I use the two loops on my Waldo exactly as lunchbox uses his.

If I end up with a har that has one belay loop, I'm gonna tie an extra loop on as LB did. Having two seems almost mandatory now that I've gotten used to it. More useful for soloing than partnered, IMO.
Title: Re: Tie-in, belay loops
Post by: lambone on October 24, 2008, 04:10:11 pm
I think the best reason to have two belay loops is this:

If you are standing high in your aiders (top or 2nd step), the daisy is pulling down to your piece and pulling the belay loop down. Then if you are reaching high with the other daisy, and they are both on one loop, it can limit your reach  When each daisy is on it's own loop they interfere with eachother less.

Also when soloing I rig the gri-gri on one and the back up knot on the other...