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Title: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Caz on May 01, 2009, 11:54:52 pm
So what is your method of making sawed offs? I've heard a hack saw, but damn that's gotta take forever. How about a grinder or maybe a cutting torch???

Anyone ever use the Lucky short angles? I was told once that you can replace sawed offs with them.


Thanks in advance for your replies.


Zac
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Didder on May 02, 2009, 12:35:39 am
I put em' in a vice and take the hack saw to em.... doesn't really take that long. Can file the sharpness off on the end after cutting em' to keep em' from being too sharp.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: KevinW on May 02, 2009, 10:01:02 am
Caz,.. I'm pretty sure that most chrome moly pitons have been heat-treated, a torch is defiantly a bad idea, and I wouldn't recommend a grinder either as the steel will become either soft, or brittle depending on how it's cooled after cutting.
A hack saw is the best way, and really doesn't take that long at all. When one of my regular pins gets mangled, I saw it off, file it.. and it becomes a shorty, it seems to keep me well supplied as I have only ever bought a few that were
short to begin with.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: skully on May 02, 2009, 03:15:17 pm
Ditto, we're hacksaw monkeys.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: iceman777 on May 02, 2009, 05:29:04 pm
I have a couple of the Lucky short angles  they work ok  .

Used a friend's bandsaw to cut my new shorty's, cut them with a slight angle back twards the eye, It gives the nose area a nice ramp
 than smoothed em all out w/a file ....
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: passthepitonspete on May 02, 2009, 05:42:56 pm
I never liked the Luckys.  I'm an angle man all the way.

Why don't you just phone around some local machine shops, find someone with a saw who will cut them for you?  Save you a hella lota work with a hacksaw.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Caz on May 02, 2009, 06:08:49 pm
I've got quite a few but I have to admit that I've been lazy and have just been looking on Ebay for them. That's how I've got most of my iron.

I really want to get on a nailing route this year...



Zac
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: passthepitonspete on May 02, 2009, 07:41:16 pm
So what's stopping you?  Shut up and climb.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Rags on May 03, 2009, 12:51:40 am
WTF?

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Why don't you just phone around some local machine shops, find someone with a saw who will cut them for you?  Save you a hella lota work with a hacksaw.

Lot less work than humping one of your pigs to the base of a wall. Get a fresh blade, I can cut one in 5 minutes, five. If anyone is really that lazy get a fucking die grinder with a cut wheel, 30 freeking seconds, and you don't need a vise.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: KevinW on May 03, 2009, 03:29:37 am
I even have a buddy with a machine shop. industrial band saw, the kind that automatically delivers cutting
oil to the piece,etc., but I wouldn't even bother going there to use it because... *seriously*, as Rags said,
"Get a fresh blade", and it' so easy that I'll do 2-3 cuts on a single pin that I want shape/point, to save
on grinding/filing.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Caz on May 03, 2009, 11:38:50 am
I didn't realize that it's so quick to do it... I guess I'll do out and buy a hack saw and a vice and give it a go.

Thanks for the info.


Zac
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: cobbledik on April 21, 2011, 10:50:48 am
I went at some angles with a hacksaw yesterday and barely got through 1/3 of a pin in an hour before I dulled 4 new blades. What am I missing?

Should I use a specific blade type? recommendations?
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Raaf on April 21, 2011, 11:11:49 am
A friend of mine used a Dremel cutting wheel, the special kind--carbide, a little more expensive. Says it went through like butter. Didn't see it myself, but I believe him.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: mhudon on April 21, 2011, 12:27:24 pm
I took mine to the metal shop down the street. He did them all in about fifteen minutes and charged me twenty bucks.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Chad on April 21, 2011, 02:08:16 pm
I used a hacksaw. It was like butter! Probably a special blade - it was painted white and had fine and hard teeth. I borrowed it from a plumber friend who knows what's up. He said it was the best hacksaw and blade you can get. I also had to go over to another friend's house to cut the angles, since I didn't have a robust vice fixed to the workbench.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Garbonzo on April 21, 2011, 05:14:22 pm
I used a cheap blade, and burned it out in less than  pin.  Then I wised up and goobered things up with some oil, voila butter effect and I got a half dozen sawed angles out of the el cheapo blade.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: YetAnotherDave on April 21, 2011, 10:09:36 pm
bench grinder.  like cutting warm butter  :)

of course, in exchange for the shop use I had to unbugger my dad's computer (yet again) but the hacksaw just seemed like work
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: lambone on April 27, 2011, 10:43:01 am
Clamp and a hacksaw. File to round off the corners.

In camp 4 once I nailed the pins in between the boards of the picknick table and that worked pretty well as a substitute clamp. Prolly could have gotten arrested for vandalism or something though...
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Caz on April 27, 2011, 10:41:29 pm
I got through two 1/2" angles today on a shitty old hack saw blade. I'm gonna tackle a couple of 1 1/2" ers tomorrow with new blades. Not as bad I thought it was going to be...
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: lambone on April 28, 2011, 02:23:13 am
New blades make it way easier. Buy a 10 pack.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Garbonzo on April 28, 2011, 08:06:19 am
New blade and LUBE!
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Caz on April 28, 2011, 10:15:54 am
Yeah, I have cutting lube that works great. It's kinda foamy...

Zac
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Caz on April 28, 2011, 04:12:15 pm
So with new blades it seems like I can get through one and a quarter 3/4" angles per blade. It took almost 2 full blades to get through a 1 1/2" angle. Is that about right or did I buy crappy blades?

Zac
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Garbonzo on April 28, 2011, 05:46:54 pm
Without oil that is doing well, with oil it sounds pretty crappy and should be more like 4-6 pins per blade.
Title: Re: How to make sawed offs?
Post by: Caz on April 28, 2011, 06:43:39 pm
I used cutting oil while cutting. I used 18 TPI blades. Should I have used either 24 or 32 TPI blades? I always thought the thi ker the metal the less teth you want...