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Title: Sling Life
Post by: BEMHO on March 02, 2010, 02:45:39 pm
Just wondering as I have pulled a ton a gear out of the basement how good are slings on cams and quick draws that have been around since 89 to 95.  I do not leave them out they have always been in crates or bags.  Some are worn, but some look pretty good.  I also have a 60 m static line brand new never used but it is 8 years old.  White 10 mil polyester static line.  Is this stuff still good or should I replace it all and have new slings sewn on my cams?  Thanks for the help.  Is there a shelf life on webbing and slings?
Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: skully on March 02, 2010, 03:05:03 pm
I'd say they're just fine.
If they were stored, out of UV, slings & webbing last a Hell of a long time.
A lot of my friends were bought in the Nineties & I've had no trouble.
Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: BEMHO on March 02, 2010, 04:28:30 pm
Thanks Skully

I think I am ok but I thought I would ask if anyone knows if it's bad or dangerous to climb on old slings and crap that are just old not weathered.   I have a kid to take care of now and I just seem to be very cautious about old gear now for some reason. 

My rack is really from 87 to 96 maybe.  I don't know really but the last cam I bought was 00 alien the black one when it first came out.  I guess they now have new single stem cams unlike the old wired BD cams with a wire trigger.  I do have a few of the first generation BD single stem units, but not much after 2000.

Thanks for the advice and have a great spring.   

Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: mungeclimber on March 02, 2010, 05:56:54 pm
piece of mind. If it were me, I would replace. That's over 20 years old. No manufacturer would say they are ok to keep using, jus sayin.

reslinging doesn't cost much, but it does relieve you of the ability to use your cams while being stitched up.  half in a batch, the rest in another batch maybe?
Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: Mike. on March 02, 2010, 06:58:01 pm
For the cost of lighter, smaller--better--new slings you could put it out of your mind. I'd be more inclined to pony up for that than I would be truly afraid of something failing. I wouldn't even mind knotted supertape on my cams to forget about it. There's just too much to think about without having to hunt for the jesus piece with the least frayed sling. That said, I trust my WC Friends I had reslung by WC over 15 years ago. They aren't worn much since they were second string gear by the time they were reslung, and the webbing is fat tubular.

I would and have used ropes (including lead) for ten years if not fallen on a bunch and kernmantel in good shape. Someone recently asked me about his 8-year-old stored lead line that's almost new. Told him I would lead on it with no issues. So, sure I'd use that static line...if it were a static line kinda guy.

I seem to recall something over the five year mark shows some degradation in webbing strength. Don't quote me there. The numbers could be nominal or not relevant to climbing forces.
Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: BEMHO on March 03, 2010, 05:07:43 pm
So where do I send all those cams that need slings replaced. 
Do I send them to original manufacturer?

20 years Mike your reality check hit home thanks. 
Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: Caz on March 03, 2010, 07:13:15 pm
Yates... (

Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: Caz on March 03, 2010, 07:15:36 pm
...Or fish, but you have to supply the webbing... (
Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: skully on March 03, 2010, 09:28:26 pm
It's inevitable that they'll get sketch.
I have a couple with tied runners.

They were sketchy.
Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: BEMHO on March 04, 2010, 09:59:08 am
My entire rack of cams are over 10 years old  Now what?


We no longer have 12mm Dyneema available.

We will no longer be able to resling cams older than 10 years. Yates Gear reserves the right to decline reslinging of any cams we feel are unsafe because of there condition of use. (ie. Please do not send us cams that are used up and thrashed!) It will be up to the customer to determine the age and condition of their cams before sending them in to us.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

We can not do Tricams.

We will not re-sling bare cabled cams.

Please send cams in clean.

Please remove the old slings from your cams before

sending them in.

Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: Raaf on March 04, 2010, 10:24:23 am
In Portland Oregon, Climb Max Mountaineering ( has a re-sling service. Don't know how convenient it is for people out of state. They put new belay loops on my wall harness, and reslung two tri-cams for me. Reasonable prices, and the work was good quality. On my harness, it was about $15 for the two replacement loops. The tri-cams were $7-8 per sling. Seemed like variety of sling color and materials was a little limited, but workable. I know people who have had their cam slings replaced there, and heard good things.
Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: miwuksurfer on March 10, 2010, 09:17:09 pm
Metolius and BD both resling their own cams.  Relatively cheap, but its limited to their own brand.
Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: miwuksurfer on March 10, 2010, 09:21:02 pm
Or Mtn Tools...
Title: Re: Sling Life
Post by: hoipolloi on March 14, 2010, 12:50:53 pm
I have to admit, I keep seeing this thread and thinking...

"SLING life"


THUG life

i don't know, maybe its just me...

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