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Offline Layback

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Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« on: April 17, 2011, 08:43:08 pm »
Can someone please help me understand what the yellow loops in the below photo are for?  The stitching leaves me to believe that they are designed to take a load, but they seem like they'd be for fixing an external gear sling.  Thanks.


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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2011, 08:48:54 pm »
If you're trying to hump the bag across a ledge, they would be a good handle. If you're trying to heave the bag up a few more inches, again, a good handle.

You wouldn't really need them to hang gear from since you would just clip the gear into the hauling sling anyway (although, I guess, at a bivy, where you let down the short side haul sling, they would prevent the gear from slipping down).

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2011, 11:44:39 pm »
I've never used them other then to clip random shit into once in a while...

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 07:34:16 pm »
Thanks guys.  Much appreciated.

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 01:01:56 am »
You know what, scratch that.

I use them for catch lines for spare bags, waste case, etc.

I've used my Half Dome 30 or so nights on the wall. Great bag. I like that the bag is shorter for two key reasons.

1. It's just way easier to dig into the bottom of at a hanging belay then the larger El Cap.

2. The center of gravity ends up being way more manageable then the El Cap on the descent.

On the otherhand, the El Cap holds more shit. Which also usually means you just bring more shit to fill it, like a stove, more beer, and an extralarge pizza....and those things are allways nice on a wall.

If you do more Grade V walls then VIs, I'd recomend the Half Dome.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2011, 01:05:15 am by lambone »

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2011, 08:26:28 pm »
I don't clip any big loads to those loops, waste case, or other small things, sure. They do make great organization loops. More loops the better when reorganizing at a hanging belay. Like lambone said, easy to dig to the bottom for the essentials.
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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2011, 05:21:38 pm »
It's good to see that everyone else is just as clueless to the actual intent of the yellow straps.  And I thought it was just me....

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2011, 05:40:22 pm »
I'll email Brooke over at Metolius and ask him.

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2011, 05:48:19 pm »
Perhaps not a noob question after all?  I'd be really interested to hear what you find mhudon.

On a side note, I'm off to do my first wall tomorrow; attempting Green Drag-on at Index.  Pretty stoked. 

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2011, 08:44:38 pm »
Have fun, that's an enjoyable route!

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2011, 09:06:40 pm »
Sweet, Layback! Let us know how it goes, if you please... hmm.

I dunno anything aboot Metolius bags. Never used one.

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2011, 10:50:28 pm »
Green Drag-on is a sweet route. Use to be my regular training solo when I lived up there.

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 10:13:43 am »
From Brooke Sandahl of Metolius:

Those are grab straps...so your can carry it easier or to help lift it off the
anchor at bivies etc.  The main hauling straps are too long for this (when the
back is really heavy)...so we put the shorter ones in.


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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2011, 10:34:23 am »
Ah, makes sense.
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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2011, 11:35:14 pm »
Thanks for checking.  That makes a lot of sense and explains the load-bearing stitching.

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2011, 01:16:41 pm »
"...help lift it off the anchor at bivies..."

Does sound like the same guys that marketed a wall harness with non-detachable rear risers, eh? j/k


The yellow loop is a perfect spot for your docking adjustable daisy. Relieves the pinch formed by the bag hanging from one of the two main hauling straps. And way faster than a M?nter mule, on and off.
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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2011, 10:35:09 am »

The yellow loop is a perfect spot for your docking adjustable daisy. Relieves the pinch formed by the bag hanging from one of the two main hauling straps. And way faster than a M?nter mule, on and off.

Nice Mike, wow I never thought of that. That totally eliminates the stupid fucking struggle of clipping one of the haulbag straps from the other one when it's weighted. Probably my least favorite task in wall climbing.

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 09:22:11 am »
Lambone,

I solved that problem with this technique http://www.bigwalls.com/forum2/index.php?topic=942.msg8890#msg8890.
Clipping or unclipping that short sling is pretty much a non issue for me now.

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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2011, 04:18:46 pm »
I've never had a problem getting the small haul strap off to get in the bag. That might be because I weigh a lot more than some of you and can wrestle that thing with no problem... ;)


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Re: Noob Question About Metolius Half Dome Haul Bag
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2011, 05:07:25 pm »
Probably a larger 'biner on the shorter strap would help; I've been using a regular keylock D. Also dependent on how plugged the bag is. But I'd rather not deal with it at all. The adjustie will make ya wanna blow off the mule and the short strap removal. Yea, Mark, it's dreamy. JohnMac approved : )  I'll ckeck out your tip Lambone cited when I can...

Good drift here, hopefully.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2011, 05:16:27 pm by Mike. »
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