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Offline Layback

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WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« on: May 22, 2011, 04:26:56 pm »
Hey guys - I was just curious how many of you:

1)  Own these.
2)  If you own them, how often do you find yourself using them?

I bought Z1 and Z2, which are for aid only, thinking that I'd have a use for them.  What I'm finding in my limited time with them is that they don't seem to expand enough to be much use.  On the 2-3 occasions that I've tried placing them, I've found that when I yard on them before bounce testing them, they often pop.

So I'm wondering if they are a very select piece that doesn't get used very often or are they completely useless?

I'd appreciate your thoughts.

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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 06:41:06 pm »
I have the Z2 and have never been able to get it to place. The black alien tends to do better. I think it's about the same size. If I have to use the Z1 I'd rather use a small brass nut or a pin...


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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 07:05:40 pm »
I have the first 3...It was an experiment, you know, maybe alien replacement. Meh.
Tiny expansion. You get more with a ballnut. I'm still playin' with them, but they're not a go to piece.

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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 09:52:00 pm »
clean climbing has it's limit in my arena.

The grey and green are not something I care to dangle with.

Forget about that purple rurp cam.....

However, I dig the bigger sizes.

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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 08:44:47 am »
The little purple guy is hard to inspect, but I've stood up on it once or twice.
You have to guess about the lobe deployment based on the travel of the trigger alone.
Tried to use it yesterday, but the rock was too crumbly. Those lobes are only hanging on to grit.
Definitely adds some pucker factor to a pitch.

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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 05:05:12 pm »
I've stood on my three in basalt, but not in granite. Probably work ok in granite, but pucker WOULD be a factor. And Sandstone? Yeesh. Maybe not.
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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 07:45:42 pm »
I got a Z1-Z3 on eBay for $20 each brand new.  Good deal.  The Z1 is basically of useless.  The Z2 is occasional useful the Z3 is a nice and slightly smaller alternative to a 00 Metolius.  If you're looking to expand your small cam selection I'd recommend the Z3 but otherwise spend your money on 0/1 and 1/2 offset

Wild country made the Z1 and Z2 to small.  A half size bigger on both and I think they would be way more useful.

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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 10:35:00 pm »
So basically hang onto Z2 - Sell Z1?  Think I can fetch $40 for it?  It's been placed and popped 2x so very little use.  ;p

Thanks everyone.

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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 10:53:17 pm »
Try stacking it on a blade, maybe.
I doubt you'll see 40 bones out of it, but you could try. They're well made, anyway.

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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2013, 04:39:23 pm »
Saw some for sale on mtn proj and wondered if anyone had revised their opinions?


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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2013, 05:22:26 pm »
Aloha cholos y cholas,

I have the free rated ones or whatever (#3-6) and I like 'em for certain things. I placed the 4 on aid once with the lobes kinda deployed... I haven't placed the 3 yet. Love the blue and red for free stuff. I go up the Grack a lot and I place them near the top. I always run that route out and do it in 2 pitches instead of 3 so having that flexibility and extendable sling really helps there.

I like Aliens and Totems for aid more, but I'm a newb at that so...

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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 10:35:58 pm »
I have the green one, it's tiiiiiny. I've brought it on every damn wall for years and never used the f'ckin thing...but someday dammit....someday...

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Re: WC Zeros - Z1 & Z2
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2013, 10:46:42 pm »
Dig it. I've stood on all of them now. I actually backed up the Z1 the first time. Popped it twice till I figured it out. That piece is just a bit too touchy for my liking. Standing on that shit DOES make you feel better about the 2 & 3, for sure. There just ain't much travel in the smallest one. To get it to set nice, ya almost have a fixed piece. A royal pain to clean. 2 & 3 are much better.
The smallest one IS an arrow size. JUst saying.
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