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Offline The Wolf

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Serious New Hammer Design Question
« on: May 23, 2011, 10:10:48 am »
I know this is the place to get real, quality and accurate answers, so here I am.

On clean walls with fixed heads I often bring a hammer and a couple heads just in case....I'm tired of carrying that heavy Yosemite Hammer, SO
We are developing a hammer (not revolutionary) specifically for clean walls.  It is a very light weight hammer with a wedged back that is used with or without chisels that can test fixed pins and place heads.

Would this be interesting to anyone?   I know you can make them in your garage, but not everyone likes fooling with grinders and making gear. Would people be interested in purchasing these if we marketed them. 

They would also be fairly low cost. Probably in the 25 dollar range.

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Re: Serious New Hammer Design Question
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 10:45:14 am »
For such purposes I have a Cassin thing I got for $12 from Sierra Trading Post some years back.  Light enough, yet you can still drill with it in a pinch.  The back is poorly designed for heading, but I've so far been lucky to never have to place a head on 7 walls, and a bunch of failed walls.

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Re: Serious New Hammer Design Question
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 10:53:23 am »
Thanks, that answers a lot of questions.  The hammer I have been testing is too light to drill with.  Probably not a marketable item, maybe a custom item if we got the price point to about $10-15.

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Re: Serious New Hammer Design Question
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 11:22:15 am »
Pika made a nut tool that had a 8-10 oz. hammer head, not big enough for pitons or drilling bolts but fine for heads.
I could draw up specs from the one I have if you want to maybe recreate the design or have a starting reference for your own design.


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Re: Serious New Hammer Design Question
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 11:42:07 am »
That thing is very cool. Do they still make it?   

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Re: Serious New Hammer Design Question
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 11:56:22 am »
I don't think so, maybe call Josh and see if there are any left over.
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Re: Serious New Hammer Design Question
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 05:25:37 pm »
having swung the whammer and the bd yo, an A5 orig and D5, Kong(in the store), the bd is pretty dang light.

the optmum effective weight is the critical factor there, so you'd have to qualify that before I was willing to shell for it.

then again, for most tricky clean aid, and correct if I'm wrong here guys, but if you blow a clean placement, you want to really correct the original that blew out, which might mean using a standard anyways to re do the string you just pulled, no?

At the very least my emergency bolt kit and bolt replacement kit, would like a BD YO so that I can hammer granite.   sandstone prolly not a worry?


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Re: Serious New Hammer Design Question
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2011, 12:54:54 am »
kristoffer had a similar idea but a bit beefier. I've got to talk to his partner Donny and see what's up with that hammer.


Here's a link to it

http://www.bigwalls.com/forum2/index.php?topic=899.msg8309#msg8309


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Re: Serious New Hammer Design Question
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2011, 09:26:26 am »
There is such great innovative stuff going on in people's shops.

Many of you know I run the Dope Miller Equipment website.  We are building slowly and carefully.  We are seeking people who create innovative gear that we can sell through our site. If you have something that you make and think others would like too, let me know. 

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Re: Serious New Hammer Design Question
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2011, 03:58:43 pm »
An interesting idea, Jeff. Kudos for thinking void-fill.

I must add though, that placing heads with a hammer pick causes inevitable missed blows (no matter who you are) and subsequent scarring/degrading/ruining of placements. You can tell when you see such a placement--not a pretty sight. It would be cool if equipment mfrs would support refraining from this hackery. Maybe come up with a super-light chisel. Cheers.
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