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Offline mwatsonphoto

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WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« on: April 14, 2012, 09:51:10 pm »
Hi all,

I picked up an A5 double ledge and would like to get a simple fly for it.  Anyone know where I can get one or have one to sell?  

Cheers,
Mike

« Last Edit: April 14, 2012, 10:32:59 pm by mwatsonphoto »

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 10:09:02 pm »
Define simple.  I don't remember which style is which right now.  I have a spare I might be willing to seperate with if it is the right style you are looking for.

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 11:05:47 pm »
Hi T Moses!

I'm looking for something like this for my double:

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/107565212

I'm not a portaledge expert so if this isn't the simple fly someone will hopefully chime in and educate me. 

Thanks!
Mike




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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2012, 05:58:54 am »
The "simple" fly doesn't have a base(floor section) or zipper door, just a drawstring for snuggin' it up.
I run one like that. It does deploy quickly. Not as good in extreme conditions, however.

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 09:01:51 am »
what skully said.

That's an "expedition" fly, mw.
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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 10:24:20 am »
Thanks guys.  I was mistakenly thinking the diamond fly was the expedition model (maybe it is too?) 

The lighter version w/o the doors sounds more like a better option for my needs.  I've only done one wall but I plan to do more this summer.

Thanks,
MW

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 05:20:28 pm »
for summer walls in Yosemite go with the lightweight fly.

Funny story RE: A5 flys...

So we brought the Cabana up the Shield last year and had beautiful weather, but on Grey Ledges a drip was coming out of the Shield roof and landing on us...so out comes the fly.

Well we spent about 30 minutes trying to monkey the fly over the corners of the ledge, really fighting with it to the point where we mangled a bunch of holes in one of the corners...after a while I am like..."wait a minute...this is the fly for my single ledge dude..."

ooops

The Bail Meter was through the roof at that point, feeling worked already, busted half our beer on the haul to Mammoth, with the prospect of heading up the Shield headwall with no rainfly. But we pushed on despite our better judgment...

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 06:56:46 pm »
Are all the A5 double ledges the same dimensions?  Here is the ledge I picked up:


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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 07:54:03 pm »
Awesome. Yeah, that's the same model I had & sold to Cheetah, The Mayor of Chinese Camp.  Really nice ledge. We both abused it thoroughly.
Portaledges have been evolving a lot. Bigger ain't always better, right?
The most recent seem bigger to me. I haven't measured them, though.

Are singles extinct yet? Lol.

Hey, great story Lambone. I think we've ALL had some kinda major Ooops Up there, from time to time. Laughin' with you, man.
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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2012, 02:31:34 pm »
overheard a story about a very prolific Valley FA'r. He'd set up his ledge, it's not quite settled or balanced on the tension points. Asleep in the middle of the night, at some point the thing collapses and flips him. He's dumped out on the slack in the rope. He doesn't die. No critical injury that will force a bail, but he comes back up to where his partner can see him...


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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 01:01:59 pm »
hey matwatsonphoto,

What you have there is called the Alpine Double. It is the smaller version of the A5 double. The other model is called the Cliff Cabana. You need to check and be sure the fly you find matches because there are two very different sizes.
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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2012, 09:37:47 am »
Thanks Lambone! 

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2012, 03:40:15 pm »
There is a chance I could be wrong, i am going off memory with the end tensioners, i thought there were 4 on the Cliff Cabana.

Another way you can tel is that the Alpine Double uses a two piece lengthwise pole, and the Cabana uses a three piece section.

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2012, 04:02:23 pm »
Then my ledge is the Alpine double.  Can someone tell me the dimensions of the A5 double.  It seems the Cabana is 51x 86 and the Alpine Double is 43 x 75.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2012, 07:57:10 pm by mwatsonphoto »

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2012, 09:29:43 pm »
yes, the ledge is 43 x 75. It is an alpine double. I have one. Best ledge ever made in my humble opinion.

If you goggle A5 catalog you can locate John's A5 catalog really easy. Print it out for future reference. Also on the Portatledge design discussion on this forum John has uploaded designs for flys so worse case, you could have one made. I"m sure Luke in Moab would help you out.


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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2012, 09:33:26 pm »
So I was talking with Theron and he has a fly for a double that measures 77 x 51.  Would this fly work with my ledge?

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2012, 11:01:52 pm »
IMHO it is just too big. If you could test it and see how how it fitted and return it him if that was okay, maybe that would work. The thing about fly's is that if they don't fit perfectly you end up have material bunched in corners, etc. The fit should be snug. You also will need the pole as well.

I see lots of these fly's come up on Ebay, supertopo, mountain project, etc. so maybe post up a WTB ad on those sites as well.

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2012, 10:21:54 am »
yeah I agree, you want a tight fit. otherwise the winds in a storm will blow the thing all over the place.

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2012, 10:27:03 am »
Thanks for the help guys!!  I'll post up in MP and keep an eye on ebay. 

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2012, 10:51:06 am »
set up an agent on ebay to notify on the word "portaledge"

If I hear of one I'll let you know.

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2012, 04:22:14 pm »
I think I may have a lead on a fly now.  However, it doesn't have a pole or a sleeve in the fly to put one.

Question:  Do some flys have this and some don't?  I don't see a way to attach a pole to the ledge itself. 


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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2012, 08:41:28 pm »
The pole doesn't attach to the ledge, but rather there are a couple of pockets in the fly that you hook it into.

Getting a new pole is easy. there are a bunch of places that will take care of this. It is only a tent pole.

Do you need the dimensions of the pole?


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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2012, 09:33:26 pm »
Yeah, that would be great!

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Re: WTB: Simple fly for A5 double ledge
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2012, 09:20:30 pm »
Sorry, I"ve been away. I'll go and measure it and post it up later tonight.

It is in 5 sections.

Total length is 124 inches.

Hope that helps.
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