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Offline csproul

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A5 portaledge ???'s
« on: November 10, 2012, 06:24:41 pm »
So I acquired an A5 alpine double and fly. I've set it up in the yard and there is a pole (like a tent pole) that came with it. Damned if I can figure out where it goes. Any help?

Also, here's a much more basic question. You can obviously clip the ledge straight to an anchor point...but how do you generally do it if using the fly? There is a sewn webbing on the top of the fly and it looks to me like you'd clip that to the anchor and then clip the ledge itself to the sewn webbing, allowing the fly to either remain in the bag (not deployed) or not. Only potential drawback i see to clipping anchor>fly webbing>ledge would be that the ledge is now lower by the length of the webbing. Not sure how else youd do it though. Sound right?

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Re: A5 portaledge ???'s
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 09:41:16 pm »
no big deal to have your ledge lower, especially if you rig your anchor right.

The A5s I've stayed in are; anchor point-->rain fly clip in-->underfly clip in to the ledge clip in point

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Re: A5 portaledge ???'s
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2012, 10:29:21 pm »
It has to go a little lower to accommodate the extra link.
As far as your pole goes, just tuck it into the flap where the end is, if it doesn't have a pole pocket sewn in. Some do, some don't.
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Re: A5 portaledge ???'s
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2012, 11:32:45 am »
The Metolius Fly has a sling that runs from the top of the packed fly to its bottom, about 16" long. Frequently, when you need to set up the fly in a situation where you're above a ledge, El Cap Tree on Iron Hawk, P21 where I weathered that storm, top of P2 on Native Son, The Bismarck, the bolts aren't drilled high enough to accommodate that additional length.

My Metolius ledge has to be up quite high to fit properly under the fly. I raise the ledge, get all the straps and things on the fly set, and then drop the ledge down a bit onto the fly to tighten it up. When it is tight, it will shed rain and not flap around in the wind. If there is a ledge under the ledge (?) you can't drop the ledge (this is getting confusing) down far enough to tighten the fly.

My solution is to tie a knot in the connection strap and clip the ledge there so that I can raise the ledge and mitigate the 16" it hangs lower.

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Re: A5 portaledge ???'s
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2012, 03:08:15 pm »
For situations like the Bismarck or Peanut, one way of getting the porta ledge set up nicely without being impeded by the natural ledge is to hang theledge off a single or double length sling clipped to the bolt.This allows it to clear the natural ledge and means you still have the natural ledge to stand/sit/crap on.Check out the gimp monkeys video, that's how they set up their bivy on peanut.

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Re: A5 portaledge ???'s
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2012, 05:19:27 pm »
Bring extra duct tape


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Re: A5 portaledge ???'s
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2012, 10:57:12 am »
I use an adjustable daisy to hang the ledge from. This really helps to dial in the exact height with the fly, ledge, etc. \

Thanks Mark!

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Re: A5 portaledge ???'s
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2012, 06:15:35 pm »
Check out this cool TR from Mikey Schaefer. If you scroll down, you can see that there is an option for shortening the hang height of the Metolius Ledge as Mark Hudon suggests. I've done this before when the sling in the fly storage bag makes it hang too low.

http://www.thecleanestline.com/2012/10/mikey-schaefer-makes-first-free-ascent-of-father-time-on-yosemites-middle-cathedral.html

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Re: A5 portaledge ???'s
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2012, 06:32:03 pm »
Oh, I see, he eliminates the bag altogether.

I'd love to do that route!