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Offline offset

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Sleeping systems?
« on: November 13, 2012, 11:41:59 pm »
what's your sleeping system?  specifically dealing with the harness -  loosens leg loops?  remove leg loops?  special sleeping harness not yet released to the public?  always climb in a single push?

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Re: Sleeping systems?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2012, 09:15:57 am »
2" swami.

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Re: Sleeping systems?
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 10:01:41 am »
have left the harness on (removing all metal), except for SFWC at Dinner ledge. Untied.

Typically too tired to bother taking it off and replacing it with something else. Having heard of portledges taking spills... lol... bit paranoid.

I have two sleeping bags that I can use. An older 20F heavy bag + Wild Things Bivy sack, that has a clip in loop.  Or a lighter weight womens tall sleeping bag that i use for summer ultralight backpacking too + bivy sack WT with loop.  (oddly the womens bag was several ounces lighter than the mens bag)


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Re: Sleeping systems?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2012, 10:30:19 am »
No bigwalls under my belt, but quite a few alpine bivies and a trip up the RNWF of HD...I have either just left the harness on or use one with removable leg-loops and either just undo them or completely take them off if I feel like taking the time. I typically use a Bibler bigwall bivy sack with the nylon tether sewn through.

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Re: Sleeping systems?
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 11:41:01 am »
Sometimes I leave my harness on and other times I use a 2" swami like Mark.  My wife tells me I can sleep anywhere and through anything (not a bad trait for in the mountains I suppose), so sleeping with a harness on isn't usually an issue.

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Re: Sleeping systems?
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 12:03:55 pm »
I don't sleep in my harness.  I tie a swami with a long sewn 1" runner.

But y'all got me thinking.  The ledge is almost always hanging off to the side on it's own anchor so I always back that up to a  main power point (in case the ledge anchor fails right).  I also tie myself directly to a main power point.

So if the ledge anchor did fail the ledge and I would be hanging off separate back-ups. And the ledge would probably be below me and I would be hanging by the swami - ouch!

Now I'm thinking I should tie myself into the back-up point I use for the ledge, so if we fall we fall together and I might have something to stand on after the dust settles.

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Re: Sleeping systems?
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2012, 01:17:09 pm »
Good point, Mawk.

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Re: Sleeping systems?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 02:10:17 pm »
I just leave my harness on. Dont like the potential for screwups while taking it off or putting it back on again. I find the buckle on my Yates Shield pretty tough to do/undo too. Reassuring that it won't come undone, but don't want to have to wrestle with it each morning and evening. Always backed up to 2 points thatarent the ledge anchor too.

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Re: Sleeping systems?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2012, 02:39:00 pm »
On the walls that I had the yates shield harness, I would take it completely off due to the hammer holster (rigid) and those other 2 rigid loops, and use a swami.

Now I have a Misty cadillac and everything lays flat, so I just take off the leg loops.


I have had WAY too many bivy epics with the ledge over the years...Not to at least have my harness swami on and at the ready for damage control at 3:00am.

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Re: Sleeping systems?
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2012, 10:02:34 am »
good stuff here...

i've always kept the harness on, leg l00ps and all.   the ledge and the 'lifelines' are always two different power points = there has to be an 'and' failure. 

I give myself enough leash on my tie-in, and then use a gri gri to take out most of the slack so that if the ledge does go, it won't be a long ride.  also very easy to cinch up when it's time to pack up the ledge (worst part of the morning, eh)

what i'd really like to have (i think) is a single ledge to have separate sleeping quarters for the team.  the few nights i've slept solo on a dbl ledge were PLUSH!