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The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« on: February 04, 2014, 01:50:34 pm »
Yo Gang,

All of the latest topos are up on the website, and I'm working on getting the photo overlays up now.

I sure appreciate everyone here's support, and want to encourage you to spread the word that we climbers can(and should) have free online resources for routes on public lands. Our book contains so many thousands of corrections, variations, and routes offered by people who were inspired by our idea to create a free online guide.

So keep the corrections comin! Woot!

thanks,
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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2014, 06:36:15 pm »
Please tone down the Spam, it is annoying.

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2014, 12:47:13 am »
whats annoying are all the haters spewing their venom toward someone who's dedicated years of work to create the most amazing and comprehensive guide book to Yosemite wall climbing that has ever and may very be WILL ever exist, and he's only asking for help in making it better.

so why don't you tone it down, bro

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2014, 08:42:10 am »
Yo Garbonzo,

Sorry if this post hit you the wrong way. Not intended as spam at all. You're probably like me, and don't feel the need to email guidebook authors about things like 'dead and down should be dead-and-down',lol, but amongst the incredible amount of grammar edits we received for the guidebook were tons of actual corrections/new beta on routes. So I wanted to give a shout out to the community for their awesome input.

Let's get to something good--what are you looking at climbing this year? What blew you away last year? I had a rough year what with working on the guidebook all the time and my wife leaving me, but my five ascents of El Cap were over-the-top icing on the cake/bliss. Mirage is super cool once you've done the other moderates on the Southwest Face. I'm psyched to climb Sunkist after seeing all those amazing shots of folks climbing it lately(and someone else replaced the bolts ;).

Go for it!
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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2014, 09:36:27 am »
+1 for Nanook!

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2014, 10:10:22 am »
One of the primary goals of this project is to create an interactive, community oriented guidebook experience. Instead of a few individuals sitting in an ivory tower holding the topos and only releasing little bits to the ordinary climber, climbing beta for Yosemite is now being democratized.

I cannot think of a better way to spread the word and build this community than interacting on climbing forums. The updates, corrections, and all other beta we receive becomes (almost) immediately available for all, and the whole community thus benefits.

Best,
Roger Putnam

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2014, 10:20:58 am »

I cannot think of a better way to spread the word and build this community than interacting on climbing forums. The updates, corrections, and all other beta we receive becomes (almost) immediately available for all, and the whole community thus benefits.


Good stuff there ^^^

Though not all topos need to be disclosed to everyone at all times, most established lines could sure benefit from that kind of open dialogue.




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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2014, 10:52:34 pm »
4 of the top 6 topics are all for this guidebook, just saying that a new topic was not needed given the other 3 on the front page.  It is harshing the vibe of this site.

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2014, 12:38:58 pm »
Yo Garbonzo,

There were three other topics related to bigwall guides, but one of them is for a new book that I'm working on now--a how-to guidebook so I left that one up but deleted the other two.


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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2014, 03:03:08 pm »
What? a gentlemanly response to a gentlemanly query? Screw this, I'm going back to ST where you can expect 20-30 posts of ad hominem attacks and pony pictures.




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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2014, 08:41:26 am »
Got the print book in the mail last night!   Great job eric...beautiful pictures and great compilation of routes.   looks like a ton of work and a ton of work that has paid off with a great product....

congrats on getting the book out!

bob

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2014, 10:21:29 am »
Book looks amazing and chock full of stoke. Do yourself a favor, put your ST bigwalls book and your Reid bigwalls book on one side and Nanook and Roger's bigwall book on the other. Compare and see how much more of the valley the new book has opened up for us monkeys.

I have the entire yosemitebigwalls website downloaded to my computer and I'd buy the hard copy of the book again (if it gets lost or something) without a second thought.
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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2014, 10:36:45 am »
by no means pitting one against the other.  they all have their value and place.   I'd say the new one is more a 'complete guide' where the supertopo is a "valley select' guide.       great having them all available and great to have multi-sources for some routes now

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2014, 01:52:50 pm »
Thanks for the kudos. Spread the word! I have 8,000 pounds of bigwall beta in my basement that needs to be sold!
-Roger P

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2014, 06:28:47 pm »
Hey Roger, can I buy one straight from you next time I'm in your neck of the woods?

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2014, 07:51:59 pm »
E-mail sent, Chris.

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2014, 08:31:08 pm »
Thanks Bob! And Thanks to all the community members who contributed so much!

Roger and I are super stoked on how the book came out. It is always difficult with guidebooks, as there is always something else to add, etc.

Because we are pricing the book at $30, at least for this first season, we really need folks to order from us at Yosemitebigwall.com. The Touchstone Gyms in the Bay Area are carrying the book, as well as the Yosemite Mountain Shop and hopefully the Valley Visitor Center, but that is all for right now.

Woot!
Erik
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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2014, 08:38:09 am »
Posted up someone on the home page of mountain project under announcements. Hopefully that will help to spread the word...

http://www.mountainproject.com/v/108922181

It will show up at the top of the list in about 10 minutes or so.


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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2014, 03:52:34 pm »
 :-(

Trying to support, but can't seem to get past a 'shipping choice.'  I push the button and it goes to the top with the "you need to pick a shipping option. Overandoverandover...

I also dont see a button to choose a payment, but maybe that will come up after I get to choose a shipping option.

Help me help you
Thnaks
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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2014, 07:25:14 pm »
Mine arrived in the mail today. Congrats on a fantastic book.

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2014, 08:38:15 am »
Hi Wes,

I apologize you had a hard time with the checkout. I think we need to take the 'calculate shipping' section out of the cart. You don't have to use that - just enter your shipping info and it will automatically generate the shipping price as you proceed through checkout.

Please email me personally at erik@yosemitebigwall.com if you have any more trouble.

best,
erik

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2014, 01:08:57 pm »
I can't wait to get mine!

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2014, 01:52:08 pm »
Weird Mark - Sorry you haven't received your book yet.

We shipped 350 at the same time from the same post office. Offset got his in Seattle 3-4 days later, folks in California still haven't gotten theirs. Ouch - the limitations of Media Mail.


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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2014, 07:59:24 pm »
Hey Erik and Roger,
Thanks so much for putting this together!!
So many great photos, and I really like the more in depth info sections.

Can't put it down!
See you in the Valley,
Dane

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2014, 08:16:11 pm »
Thanks for fixing it Eric. Order placed! I'm looking at the Ebook now. I got the combo.

Thanks again! It looks great!

Wes

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2014, 10:01:41 pm »
It was in the mailbox waiting for me, Erik. I hadn't been home since Thursday.

You guys did a real nice job on it, IMHO.

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2014, 08:21:47 pm »
Got it! Looks awesome.

Thanks for this.

Wes

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2014, 09:32:22 pm »
Thank you guys!

We did have some trouble with Internet Explorer not working with our shopping cart, as Wes noted. We think we have this fixed now. Please post up if anyone has anymore difficulties.

Go for it!
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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2014, 10:14:25 pm »
Finally got a chance to have a good look at Eric's excellent new guide.

A few additions/corrections:
--When I soloed Never Never Land, I did an alternate finish to the last pitch to Thanksgiving.  It had no bolts, and involved runout 5.10 face climbing, as well as some A2/A3 (to the right of pitch 18).  I was actually a bit lost, very terrifying.

On Cosmos, the variation Jimmy and I did branched off at Pitch 19.  I led two pitches in a fierce storm to the place called "The Big Chill", which is right below the traverse to the left (the dihedral next to where it says "original route" is actually a very short section before you start climbing out the roof, which Jimmy led after our surviving the storm).  Thus, the "original route" should be the line to the left, not the right.

Wyoming Sheep Ranch direct finish--I don't ever recall naming this the "psycho killer variation"; in fact, I think that name referred to one of the pitches on the original route.  We just named it, The Cylcop's Eye variation (2 long pitches to NA).

On the AO, I think we had a separate belay from Iron Hawk below the roof, but that's inconsequential--people seemed to have figured it out!  The "Hourglass" is actually called "Hourglass Timebombs" but I have heard that timebombs have since exploded.

Nice guide!

I think, where the info was available (i.e. Walt's topos), it would have been nice to see the original hole counts per pitch.  Lots of new bolts added on some routes, I see (like Kali Yuga).

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Re: The New Yosemite Bigwall Guide
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2014, 08:04:48 am »
Fantastic feedback, John. Thank you so much.
-Roger P.
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