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Offline Prod

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Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« on: July 07, 2015, 05:18:37 pm »
Howdy,

I'm in the process of teaching a pal how to follow me up Elcap, (because I am such a seasoned vet....).

I turned him onto CMac's videos, and watched them first. I was surprised to hear that he does not clean with a gri gri and prefers the 2 jumar method. Same goes for jugging free hanging ropes. His issue is rope feed.

I started with 2 jumars and switched to a Jumar and a Gri gri a few years back. Rope feed is a pain in the ass in the beginning but eases up as I get higher.

What says yous alls?

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Re: Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2015, 06:57:29 pm »
Jugs and a mini trax. 3 is better than two when dealing with traverses and such. trax feeds nicely.

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Re: Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2015, 08:47:54 pm »
I think ChrisMac will also use a Trango Cinch and prefers it to the GriGri because of how it runs with less friction. The Micro Traxion (with two jumars) works great for fixed ropes.

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Re: Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2015, 10:34:25 am »
One jug and grigri is good for weaker upper body strength climbers, otherwise two jugs with backup is usually more efficient.
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Re: Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2015, 12:19:52 pm »
Yeah, I would teach the classic method of 2 jugs, and a backup first.

Introducing the grigi as the go to method is gonna kill the speed, and efficiency.

It is a good tool to have and use in some circumstances.

I have used it maybe 2 times in my career, and only because my shoulder blew out on me and I was using one arm for everything.

Keep it simple, and have him/her use a minitrax, grigri, or knots to back up the rope work.


What are you planning on doing PROD?


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Re: Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2015, 01:04:37 pm »
I like the one jug and a Grigri setup shown in the link below. It's useful when you're on anything traversing or wandering, since the Grigri is already in place for the lower-outs. (can't figure out how to make the image smaller, otherwise I'd post the photo).

Definitely not fast, but it gives confidence that the Grigri is your backup through the whole pitch.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_X9qtCyXN8hk/S_WUxBSFeNI/AAAAAAAAAfA/uBXOznJJSBM/s1600/PetzlRAD.jpg

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Re: Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2015, 03:29:48 pm »
If you're planning on using the 'Gri-Gri' or RAD method now or eventually:
In my experience the Trango Cinch is far superior to the Gri-Gri as far as feed and ease of use goes. Though the Cinch lacks an active spring to keep the cam engaged if you're looking for that...but its shape and action automatically lends to engagement anyway.

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Re: Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2015, 05:59:11 am »
Mucci

Looking at NNL in late September.

Thanks for all of the input. Now if the afternoon showers would stop.....

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Re: Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2015, 12:35:40 pm »
I use the gri gri as a backup but not really for cleaning gear.

It slows things down if you are always yarding slack through.


Make sure they can clean traverses well. The first 8 pitches of NNL are like horizontal traverse, bolt ladder, horizontal traverse, bolt ladder, etc...

I think I did like 8 lower outs in a row on pitch 2.
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Re: Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2015, 06:20:14 pm »
Yo Lambone,

Thanks for the heads up.

Any rack recommendations?

Did you bring a lower out cord or was there enough in the lead line?

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Re: Gri Gri to clean/ jug
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2015, 08:58:50 pm »
I just used the lead chord, I also clip-cleaned through some gear on a few pieces.

We brought pretty much your rack recommendation. Joe back cleaned a few sawed offs across pitch 2. I ended up using the #6 on p4 cause we had it, but it looked doable without. That pitch are up all our small cams.

We bailed in a waterfall off of pitch 7.