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Zion- how long to dry out in winter temps?
« on: January 25, 2009, 03:27:46 pm »
Help. I was looking at a Zion trip starting midweek next week and the rain won't stop till Tuesday.1-28-09 How long does it take for the sandstone to get good again with the ambient temps in the 40's? Should I bag it for a later date with better weather? Is there enough wind to dry it quickly or does the temp need to be warmer  to dry up the water out of the stone rather than just on the surface. I have zero sandstone experience is why I ask this. I definately don't want to screw up placements on a route by jumping the gun. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: Zion- how long to dry out in winter temps?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 12:05:10 am »
Bob,

May want to cross post to the Taco as there are more desert rats over there that post regularly.

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Re: Zion- how long to dry out in winter temps?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 09:12:15 am »
Thanks for the suggestion Munge. I'll leave this up till you view it then delete is as it is very time dependent and holds no value to the forum.
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Re: Zion- how long to dry out in winter temps?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 11:16:19 am »
In the summer time I wait two days before getting on a wall.

At this time of the year you probably want to wait longer as once things get a good soaking it needs good sun and temps to really dry it out.  Something like Touchstone that faces south you might be able to get away with it but the descent is going to really suck.

Personally i would wait until the weather is a little more stable and warmer.

PS: I don't consider myself a Desert Rat, but Zion is the place I kind of climb the most.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2009, 07:07:26 pm by johnmac »

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Re: Zion- how long to dry out in winter temps?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 11:20:52 pm »
desert mac?

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Re: Zion- how long to dry out in winter temps?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 11:09:53 am »
  I did not want to start a new thread, but the question I have is closely related. 

  I did in fact get on and complete Touchstone solo last February as a direct result of this thread. Thanks for the info too by the way.

   New question, what is the Dec/Jan weather like. Is it cold enough to keep the sandstone dry, and can I get out during this time frame for another solo route here, or is it too wet then? I have a month off of school starting just prior to X-mas through mid January, and really need to climb something big.

   Criteria is as follows, must be dry if sandstone, some semblance of sane as far as weather goes, Patagoochie is out of the budget anyhow. Must be able to do on a very limited gas budget, last year the whole 1 1/2 week gig went down for around $200 round trip, fuel/food and even a night in a room after. Is there another wall somewhere that could fit the bill. I am pretty open to winter weather being the crux, but do not intend to get avalanched off anything either.

  Suggestions anyone? Wanno go too?


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  Bob
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Re: Zion- how long to dry out in winter temps?
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 12:29:42 pm »
Weather in Jan and Feb can be fine for climbing. Have a Jacket for any time spent in the shade. It can get cold belaying. It's the nights and the frigid water temperatures that I don't like. So try to pick a route you don't have to cross the virgin river. The days are pretty short so things just take longer, however, it can get pretty warm in the direct sun. Take a stove for coffee!
 
Whatever you pick, make sure you really check the descent route, as it if has snowed you might find that some of the gullies have patches of snow in them which can make getting off nasty.

Something that you might want to look at is the Smooth Ellison aka Crack in the Cosmic Egg on Mt Moroni. 5.8 c2+. Its in the sun, you rapp the route so it's an easy retreat if the weather crapps out.  It's in the new guidebook. Moonlight gets done in the winter too.


 

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Re: Zion- how long to dry out in winter temps?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 03:52:52 pm »
  Thanks much John. Good info.

  Any others? Anyone wanna get chilly?

    Bob