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Offline Shoobert

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Cam hooks available!!
« on: April 23, 2009, 01:40:11 pm »
Hey guys,
as most of you are knowing, Leeper gave up producing his unic cam hooks. In Winter I was looking for another manufacture to get them, and I found!
I asked at Mountain tools, and they cooporate with Moses Enterprises to reproduce the Leepers almost original. And i think he has done a good job.
You can order them per Email to "toolman@mtntools.com" ore at http://www.mtntools.com
Best climbing, Shoobert

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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 03:56:01 pm »
link to Supertopo thread with comments from manufacturer:
http://supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=831754&msg=842660#msg842660

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 09:05:59 pm »
That would be TMoses, or Theron. That ain't all he makes, either. Makes somes damn nice keyhole hangers, too.
Probably make ya some other stuff, too, if ya ask real nice............. ;-)

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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2009, 03:15:49 pm »
Those are perfect replica's, this dude does nice work. Does anybody know anything about the Tomahawks? Are they available yet? I didn't see them on mtntools, would love to get some of those.

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 04:21:27 pm »
Very soon.....

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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2009, 04:37:52 pm »
how the hell do you get the super tape pushed through the hole in these bad boys.  I have been using that thinner flimsier stuff on my hooks but I just got a set of wides by Moses and really wanted to get supertape through the hole.  I have tried everything. i cant make it work...

would running it through the hole then water knotting it be an acceptable way to go?

or suggestions on how the hell to push the doubled over webbing through....


see Cmac does it here
http://supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=831754&msg=842660#msg842660
« Last Edit: June 20, 2009, 04:42:10 pm by hoipolloi »

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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2009, 10:42:05 pm »
Didya cut 'em pointed? It helps......water knot is ok.

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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2009, 09:57:58 am »
i gave up on it.  Talked to a friend, he said use 1/2" tubular.  That thin chinsy stuff, he said it works just as well, they are body weight only so it doesn't matter much.

I like that it is thinner than 2 layers of stuffed through super tape, so the hooks sit closer to the wall.


you think yay or ney?

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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2009, 10:54:53 am »
Aye. or "yay", I reckon.
Rock on, HP.....

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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2009, 08:50:37 pm »
A nod to Theron Moses on the cam hooks. I got a chance to use a narrow--two thumbs up. I'd about swear those are stickier than the Leepers.

I just lost my Leeper narrow this year. Now I'm kind of glad I did.
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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2009, 11:43:18 pm »
Thanks Mike. and Skully!

I tried to stay true the the original design.  Don't mess with perfection.

Fragile Flakes are out this month (Extra Wide Aluminum). Logans (both pointed and wide) are soon to hit the store shelves also.  Ya'll have to check out the improved pointed Logan Hook.

I use 9/16 Supertape.  Way burly.  The trick Skully alluded to is to cut the tape at a 45 degree angle when hot knifing it.  It is still a pain in the butt to get through.  Some people prefer the 1/2 inch stuff.  You can reverse it easily for a variety of placements.  It wears through REALLY quick.  Watch it closely.

Have fun.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2009, 06:18:46 pm by T Moses »

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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2009, 11:33:24 pm »
So are there any changes from the leeper's? different metal? Shape? Rounded edges? Anything?


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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2009, 02:43:57 pm »
Re: Logan Hooks. 
Same metal and rough shape.  The subtle change is in the tip.  I narrowed it just slightly to enable a deeper reach in to holes.  Makes for more secure bat hooking and better for blown rivet placements.  Thanks to Kate (holdplease2) for recommending this fine adjustment.  Leeper made his as a triangle then bent them.  I do the flat piece by laser.  Total freedom to adjust the shape as neccessary.  Photos later.  They will be available in about a week and a half.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2009, 06:17:47 pm by T Moses »

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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2009, 06:20:36 pm »
Check out www.mosesclimbing.com for more info.  No info on the logan hooks yet though.

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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2009, 04:00:27 pm »
Awesome! Thanks for the link...


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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2009, 12:36:23 am »
Pic for ya'll:

Small narrowing behind the tip for better reach.

Edit for clarity:  This pic is one of my slightly improved Pointed Logan Hooks.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 11:06:19 pm by T Moses »

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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2009, 09:03:39 am »
That's a beauty!

If you can do hook moves like the one in the pic then I'll take 10! 

I get the feeling that I'm not that far off base.

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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2009, 09:59:34 am »
is that a cam hook or something else. 


T Moses you need to make something similar to those big Verm hooks.  They are the shit, but I dont think you can find em any more, luckily I have one on semi-perma loan from a friend

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2009, 08:07:34 pm »
is that a cam hook or something else. 


T Moses you need to make something similar to those big Verm hooks.  They are the shit, but I dont think you can find em any more, luckily I have one on semi-perma loan from a friend

I agree, we need Verm hooks!


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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2009, 08:27:14 pm »
I have a couple. I like 'em, too.
Woot!

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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2009, 11:09:22 pm »
Shhhh.... It's a secret.  Big hooks are in the works.


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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2009, 10:41:06 pm »
buck yeah!


thats all i got to say.

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Re: Cam hooks available!!
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2009, 02:20:01 pm »
ill gnar!


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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2009, 08:50:23 pm »
HELL YES!!!
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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2009, 12:23:23 am »


From Theron's site

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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2009, 01:44:43 am »
Nice, looks RAD!!!
I do this for fun...