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Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« on: June 14, 2009, 02:18:21 pm »
Anyone have any suggestions??  I really want to pick up a new static haul line.  I want to get a 70m or even just a 65, something longer than 60 to increase ones ability to short fix.  This POS is really hard to find though.

Anyone have any suggestions on where to find a 65-70m Static line. 10mm or 10.5mm.


I really like this Bluewater 10.3, but you can only get it in 200,300, 600 foot sections. grrrrr.....

http://www.mountaingear.com/pages/product/product.asp/imanf/BlueWater/idesc/10.3+mm+Big+Wall+Static+Haul+Line+-+Standard/Store/MG/item/640710/N/0

but I could get 220feet of PMI by-the-spool 10mm for $198.  Wish I could find it cheaper. damnit.

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Re: Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 02:24:54 pm »
Just decided to search "rescue Rope" and found this site selling PMI 10mm static rope at $0.79 per foot.  A good price.


http://www.rocknrescue.com/acatalog/PMI-3-8-Static-White.html


looks like the PMI is 5,700 lbf (25.4kn)

The Bluewater linked above is sometimes listed as 10mm (as on their website) and sometimes listed as 10.3.  It seems to be the same rope though, it has a 6800lbf rating, according to BW site.  I haven't ever really looked at the strength rating on ropes, normally just the UIAA falls rating, etc.  Do both those numbers sound sufficient?

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Here is a Sterling 3/8" (10mm) buy it by-the-foot for $0.80/foot.  6,450lbf

http://www.rescueresponse.com/store/ropes.html

that one might be the keeper!
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Re: Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 03:35:57 pm »
ok, ok... I am talking to myself here but...



Anyone have any ideas about the difference between HTP (high tenasity polyester) static lines that have 1% stretch per 300lb load and Nylon static line that has 2.4% stretch per 300lb load.


I have never heard of HTP lines before....

anything?

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Re: Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2009, 04:18:13 pm »
Bueller?
Yeah, I had one of those 10 mm Blue waters, but I was experimenting, & mine was 330' long!
I have a Sterling static right now, it's a 10 & I really like it.(60 m.)
I've heard of the HTP ropes mentioned, but never saw one......curious.

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Re: Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2009, 06:17:48 pm »
No reason I can see to have a static line on board. Retired lead lines are free.

The exception might be if you want an 8mm haul line. Barring that, fat dynamic haul lines all the way.



IME 60m lines don't blow the shortfixing MO on most routes. They actually makes it easier in many cases--less rope to manage. I'm not getting why an extra-long haul line is needed to better shortfix. Your 70m running thru gear will be as short as your 60m haul line. Maybe you're counting on some let-out tail. Anyway, (to me) shortfixing means going fast and light. No need for a fat haul line on an outing like that. I'd add a skinny tag line (even a shortie) before I'd use a long, fat haul line on shortfixing runs. That way, the extra length of the haul line is pointless and the leader can resupply anytime.
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Re: Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 10:53:05 pm »
i talked to a guy who says the HTP is cool.  Lot of bonuses, I read about it on the sterling site as well, it sounds good.  Yeah Mike I was thinking 70 is nice for let out tail, more freedom to tag up gear, etc.  I just cant decide...


I just can't decide if I want the $150 BW 10.5mm 60m or the $200 Sterling HTP 10mm 70m




i suck at spending money...there is no joy in it for me.

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Re: Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2009, 08:16:05 am »
I've personally never seen the benefit of a 70m cord for hauling...  It gets heavy. If there are a lot of lower outs then carry a light cord for this purpose.

i would go with a 70m lead line before a 70m haul line.

The BW 10.5 60m rope is a good cord for hauling but my preference these days is a 10.5 or 11mm retired lead line. I just like the extra options it gives you. I don't notice the stretch much at all.

Whatever way you decide it will work out fine.

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Re: Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2009, 10:46:31 pm »
70 meter.......

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Re: Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2009, 05:57:03 pm »
what are you posting on the internet for!  Go Climb elcap Lunchbox.






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Re: Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2009, 10:23:12 am »
dude, I already did! Now I'm more tired :)

We used a 9mm 80 meter.  That's a shit load of a lot of rope, but made the short fixing so nice. 

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Re: Looking for 70m Static line! Ahhhh
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 11:39:47 pm »
I use a 70m lead line and a 70m haul. I like being able to not only having the extra rope on lead for short fixing but also there have been a few times I was able to link raps with the extra rope.


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