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Offline Mike.

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This, a big walls forum
« on: November 02, 2009, 09:08:49 am »
Seems to me the general topic here is designed to be and has mostly been about big wall climbing--how-to stuff, psyche stories and photos, geography, opinions and the like. It's a low traffic site, probably reflective of the ranks of BW practitioners compared to free climbing. A corner bar if you will.

Call me idealist, but it seems like the Big Walls Forum of this site ought not be about: the entertainment industry, how you are a victim and other reasons you are not big wall climbing or a big wall climber, homophobia, baseless slandering, incoherent babble, typing and posting just because it's physically possible. Seriously, there are other more suitable online venues for that stuff which pollutes this Forum.

Thanks to the few who frequent here and make it what it has been--a congenial campfire. No thanks to people who want to supplant on-topic content with the mindless off-topic crap noted above.
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Re: This, a big walls forum
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 09:33:17 am »
Agreed--100%.


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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 09:54:38 am »
You nailed it Mike.  I find this site to be one of the last spots there is more climbing content than not, without the retardation of rc.com.

The treasure trove of stuff in the archives is wonderful to boot.  Where else can you dig up plans for a portaledge?  Just a wonderful place that hopefully won't end up like the Taco.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2009, 12:36:51 pm by Garbonzo »

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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2009, 11:30:21 am »
Nicely stated mike.

I do love that about this site.




So should I avoid posting the thread about "How the Right neo-con bastards have done it again?!" ??????

damn....I thought this was the place for it.....

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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 11:43:24 am »
  I too, enjoy this site because of the lack of clutter. I asked a couple newbish questions (sandstone/Zion) and recieved no criticism, just the info I needed to get it done. Thanks guys. Also I believe the issue at hand is so far from left field I was going to go all RC.noobish and rate him T1, but after watching the spray hit the fan, I would have to upgrade to T2+ or even T3. I personally got none on me, but enjoyed it none the less.

  Bob

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 11:45:57 am »
Just want to say that I'm sorry for letting myself get wraped up into a stupid argument. I feel like a asshole for my actions, and will keep a tight lip from now on when it comes to things like this. I let my anger get the best of me and for this I'm sorry. My recent actions are not typical of how I really live my life, so pelase don't think I am filled with the anger and rage I showed in what I wrote in the other topic...

Thanks for your understanding...

I do love this site and would hate it if it headed in the direction of the Taco stand or RC.com.

This is the last of it you will hear from me about all this.  

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Re: This, a big walls forum
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 02:46:44 pm »
No worries, Caz. You're human like the rest of us.

Cheers, doods and doodettes.
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 05:56:20 pm »
Mike., seriously, thank you for the post....and all of you here......for keeping it real....

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2009, 11:57:34 pm »
agreed Mike. i've liked this forum since there never seems to be too much spray. thanks to most the folks here.

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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 07:23:12 am »
Right on, scotty.

It doesn't take much to contribute to what this site is/has been. Just a little big wall psyche, which a person could have without ever having done a wall. What's not to be psyched about...going way up on some face where you know humans aren't meant to be. Going toe to toe with your own mettle, getting nose-bleed scared, finding the limits of your ability to think and do without getting killed. Getting back up on it and wondering why...until you finish. What a game. Thankfully it's not for everyone. Not hard to discern who has the psyche and who's bored (boring). Cheers.


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« Last Edit: November 03, 2009, 07:25:57 am by Mike. »
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Re: This, a big walls forum
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2009, 11:24:08 pm »
well god bless amarica and the gay coyboy broke back mountaineers who like to take fagots in the ass in the mountains
and talk about it on the internet you queers are coming out of the word work
sombody call cliffhanger tell him the world is coming to an end
Ahhhhhhhhhh

Man I wish I had pushed H-S off the top of the Leaning Tower when he was unroped, complaining how cold and hungry he was and staggering around saying things like "I'm never climbing a big wall again" and "first I'ma get a bank account, then I'ma get a job, then I'ma  get a vecle, then I'ma  go on vacation" .(his spelling not mine). . sounds so far like he is 0 for 4 ... I should have known there was something wrong when he yelled up while belaying me and asked if I had ever been arrested.....oh yeah almost forgot to thank everyone for rising above and keeping it real!
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2009, 06:33:32 am »
Funny thing about the walls. They strip away all pretense and leave the real you hanging right out there. Yep, it's not for everyone.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2009, 09:35:20 am »
Funny thing about the walls. They strip away all pretense and leave the real you hanging right out there.

That's what makes them so compelling, isn't it?  They clear away all the fluff of our pampered urban lives, and leave us with something raw and pure. 

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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2009, 02:58:20 pm »
You know it. That primal itch gets a good scratching.

It's funny how climbing with a partner is more scary in a way. There's someone there to witness the raw you if you melt down. Not to mention take that pitch if you pucker off it. I dig that soloing takes that away. Nobody to whine to, nobody to surrender a pitch to (haven't done the latter yet). I think I'm often more wigged following free pitches than leading them, too. Idunno, I get in sort of a "no BS zone" when the onus is on me. More onus = less mental fucking around.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2009, 04:28:57 pm »
Funny how that works out, too.
I've done both, I'm embarrassed to report. Puckered off & melted down.
No chance of that in the solo game. At least, no witnesses.
By myself, I just got on with it. Hey, I worked it out.

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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2009, 07:18:12 pm »
Why is it that we sometimes we try so hard to not epic, to have a smooth ascent, take all the necessary gear for comfort, etc.? But, deep down inside we really want that epic experience because that is what we learn from the most and reflect on. It's about pushing ourselves and uncertainty, the need for "adventure", curiosity. It is the short moments: "yup, this is cool", "wow, I'm really scared right now", "this fucking sucks", "why am I doing this?", "I'm honestly not having fun right now", that reflect the true essence of big walling; after the pitch is finished, after we top-out, after we are down safely, then, we are aware of our actions, this is why we do this........

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2009, 09:28:51 pm »
We humans are an odd lot. Speshly the guys.

Those whacky jungle natives hurl themselves off their bamboo towers with vines tied around their ankles, arms at their sides. Closest head to the ground wins, and smacking it on the ground is extra style points. The stuff we do is just about as sensible.

No explaining these tribal rites. I can't anyway. Nearest explanation I have is










































I'm gonna die!




Hey, you did work it out. And you will. Woot!
« Last Edit: November 04, 2009, 09:32:16 pm by Mike. »
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2009, 01:16:32 pm »
Man I wish I had pushed H-S off the top of the Leaning Tower when he was unroped, complaining how cold and hungry he was and staggering around saying things like "I'm never climbing a big wall again" and "first I'ma get a bank account, then I'ma get a job, then I'ma  get a vecle, then I'ma  go on vacation" .(his spelling not mine). . sounds so far like he is 0 for 4 ... I should have known there was something wrong when he yelled up while belaying me and asked if I had ever been arrested.....oh yeah almost forgot to thank everyone for rising above and keeping it real!

Thanks - Brant Ill have to remember that. I am going to tell on you.